Thank you for the transparency. For me, the biggest value of doing things yourself is knowing HOW everything was done. No surprises in the future! You know what boards where put in, where all the cables and pipes go, what's under the siding, what screws were used, everything down to every little detail. And if anything breaks or needs to be replaced you know what this will mean too. You can likely just buy a replacement and fix it yourself. So you save money twice! edit: No to mention the opportunity to build relationship with your neighbors. You never know when that will be indispensable.
@ We’re about to buy a big farm and do the same thing - rewild, plants tons of bulbs, make it a hub for learning and education. We do somewhat similar things, maybe we’ll find a way to connect in person in the future. Thanks again.
Looks great! Always smart to put a little money into the ground work. I spent the last two years moving a 36X72 from Watkins Glen up to our farm in Canandaigua. We went with wood siding too. Shou sugi ban bc I’m lazy and don’t love to stain. (Edited barn dimensions)
So glad you used that lift. I watch another channel where they are building a large house addition that is very tall and they are mostly using really tall ladders and it makes me so nervous for them. I am afraid of heights anyways, so that makes it so much worse. But falls can be so devastating - safety first. I just love the barn especially the marigold colored doors.
What a beautiful project, and I’m just a senior woman in a condo! Love the colors you chose and your attention to detail is impressive. I love that your video showed your tanned bodies blending right in to the golden yellow doors! Haha. Love your channel.
That's a request for Sander, as he's been doing that on his own dime, and is nowhere near the finishing of his workshop. It's still just bare bones at this stage because all the other renovations have taken precedent. All to say is that it may take him a couple years to do a real cost analysis!
Several thoughts. You could have left the metal siding on and run wooden purlins across the face of the metal and attach your boards to those. In that way you would have had an additional wind barrier and would not have had to go through the trouble of taking down the middle and recycling it. Another thought, you can very quickly joint and cut to width your boards by bringing in a wood-mizer and putting the boards on edge. You can do 20 at a time and joint one side and then flip the boards to the other side and cut them with the wood Miser all together to your final with. Finally, well not your aesthetic probably, you could have left the boards unfinished. Traditionally barns had unfinished boards as didsiding on houses as well as wood shingles. That would be a huge cost savings as well as time. s
Hey Sam, awesome to see you here. Sander would probably be best to comment. But we discussed leaving the metal siding up, but we really wanted the unfinished wood look on the inside of the barn as well-not just wood on the outside. If we left the metal up, we would have then had to have wood for the outside AND inside-more than doubling what we would need. What was nice about taking it off, is that we had the metal lip above, underneath roof line (can't recall what that's called), and the boards precisely fit under that, which was awesome. And we did leave one side of the boards unfinished (the inside) (see discussion in this renovation video here: ruclips.net/video/UU7VJvYgczs/видео.html) but we wanted to plane at least one side so we could 1.) get every board the same thickness and get a really precise fit to the side of the barn and 2.) a more modern look. Sander is obsessed with precision. The wood mizer looks awesome; thanks for that tip. A new one looks like 7x the cost of a planer if we were to invest in that new. I think that would have been probably a weighing the plusses and minuses of investing in that ourselves. But I'm sure we could have possibly found a friend in these parts that maybe could have lent us one. If we ever take on another big project like this, I think it could be well worth the investment, though next time, I'm hoping we'll be more decisive on whether we want it planed or not and just asked the miller to do that! Hope you are doing well and enjoying the winter!
AND your labor DIY saved more than the $$$ you would have had to pay out. To pay out $ 37,000:00 you would have had to earn over $ 50,000:00 before income taxes. Nice work and nice detail !
I personally don’t like LED lighting, and I’m an electrician. LED’s are constantly cycling on/off faster than your eye can see. This on off cycle actually puts out frequencies (sometimes audible). I’m not sure if these frequencies are good for us tbh.
Yeah we've seen some data on that, mainly in using LEDs for headlights and red light therapy, for instance. I think you would need to find LEDs with a constant current vs those that rely on pulse-width modulating circuitry. The other issue with say incandescent vs LEDs is that the filament in the incandescent naturally produces both visible light and near infrared light, whereas the LED has to be designed and programmed to do as such. This can potentially affect the production of certain enzymes/hormones. One may want to weigh the plusses and minuses of that if you're 1.) going to be living/working a lot in the facility, specifically at night, and 2.) the other alternatives on the market for switching out bulbs, cost, etc. If you have any literature on human effects in buildings, that would be very interesting if you care to share. Happy to review and look into that, as it would have cross-over into plant grow light categories too. I can't imagine we'll be using the lights that often in the barn, as Sander doesn't typically work at night, and luckily we put in quite a bit of windows during the day time to get that beautiful natural sunlight, which the barn didn't have before. Thanks for bringing this up. It's fascinating and nascent as far as the research goes!
When we built our garage about 12 years ago we opted for full length (pricey) cedar boards, and it looked beautiful! Unfortunately woodpeckers like it and they’ve been busy pecking away. We’ve had to patch it up and right now we have Mylar strips hanging from parts of it. I wanted to use wood because our home is cedar sided but to be honest if I had to do it over again I’d side it with something that doesn’t need to be stained or painted. We have tons of birds and we love them but they can do damage to wood along with the bees.
That's interesting. The main house here is cedar-sided (almost 40 years old now) and it will occasionally have a woodpecker knocking on it but it's a rare occasion. I think there are more interesting insects in the actual trees. Are you in an area where there are a lot of mature trees?
Yes we live in S Ct in a heavily wooded area….we have so many birds here it’s wonderful!!! We have owls, hawks and huge pileated woodpeckers but they seem to like old tree stumps the best and that’s fine with me. My husband says it’s the hairy woodpeckers that chew up our garage. I wonder if they are looking for bugs, or if it’s some sort of bird love language. I do prefer the new look of your barn, you’ve done an amazing job on the property and buildings.
35 years ago in the wooded hills of Westchester County, New York we had some very strong tornadoes that caused a lot damage to the houses, electrical posts, barns and trees. Have you given any thoughts regarding that?
Yes, for people who cannot or don''t want to change the siding of an exterior building would likely not find this video helpful and maybe would find something else to watch that is helpful for them. However, anyone who is considering it; or folks who have to side a building and are weighing the costs of doing it in either wood or metal, for instance; or folks who are considering doing it themselves vs. hiring a contractor; of folks just looking for design tips or inspiration-like colors, patterns, or software to visualize in-may find a video like this helpful.
Thank you for the transparency.
For me, the biggest value of doing things yourself is knowing HOW everything was done. No surprises in the future! You know what boards where put in, where all the cables and pipes go, what's under the siding, what screws were used, everything down to every little detail. And if anything breaks or needs to be replaced you know what this will mean too. You can likely just buy a replacement and fix it yourself. So you save money twice!
edit: No to mention the opportunity to build relationship with your neighbors. You never know when that will be indispensable.
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You guys are so meticulous, and in my opinion is a good thing!! 😂
I thought you were crazy when you said you were taking the metal off that building and replacing it with wood, but now I get it. It looks so good.
Looks amazing! Thanks for sharing all this all the time Summer and Sander!
Most welcome.
@ We’re about to buy a big farm and do the same thing - rewild, plants tons of bulbs, make it a hub for learning and education. We do somewhat similar things, maybe we’ll find a way to connect in person in the future. Thanks again.
Looks great! Always smart to put a little money into the ground work. I spent the last two years moving a 36X72 from Watkins Glen up to our farm in Canandaigua. We went with wood siding too. Shou sugi ban bc I’m lazy and don’t love to stain. (Edited barn dimensions)
So glad you used that lift. I watch another channel where they are building a large house addition that is very tall and they are mostly using really tall ladders and it makes me so nervous for them. I am afraid of heights anyways, so that makes it so much worse. But falls can be so devastating - safety first. I just love the barn especially the marigold colored doors.
We definitely think it would be far too dangerous to have done this on ladders! We are SO thankful to our neighbors for their largesse.
What a beautiful project, and I’m just a senior woman in a condo! Love the colors you chose and your attention to detail is impressive. I love that your video showed your tanned bodies blending right in to the golden yellow doors! Haha. Love your channel.
Glad you found it enjoyable to watch!
Great job!
Thank you so much.
Super, thanks! Please do a cost analysis for the workshop someday.
That's a request for Sander, as he's been doing that on his own dime, and is nowhere near the finishing of his workshop. It's still just bare bones at this stage because all the other renovations have taken precedent. All to say is that it may take him a couple years to do a real cost analysis!
This is a great investment
It looks so much better!!
We concur! Thank you.
Your building looks beautiful nice job will Sander have his own RUclips woodworking Channel down the road when you're all finished
Several thoughts. You could have left the metal siding on and run wooden purlins across the face of the metal and attach your boards to those. In that way you would have had an additional wind barrier and would not have had to go through the trouble of taking down the middle and recycling it. Another thought, you can very quickly joint and cut to width your boards by bringing in a wood-mizer and putting the boards on edge. You can do 20 at a time and joint one side and then flip the boards to the other side and cut them with the wood Miser all together to your final with. Finally, well not your aesthetic probably, you could have left the boards unfinished. Traditionally barns had unfinished boards as didsiding on houses as well as wood shingles. That would be a huge cost savings as well as time. s
Hey Sam, awesome to see you here. Sander would probably be best to comment. But we discussed leaving the metal siding up, but we really wanted the unfinished wood look on the inside of the barn as well-not just wood on the outside. If we left the metal up, we would have then had to have wood for the outside AND inside-more than doubling what we would need. What was nice about taking it off, is that we had the metal lip above, underneath roof line (can't recall what that's called), and the boards precisely fit under that, which was awesome. And we did leave one side of the boards unfinished (the inside) (see discussion in this renovation video here: ruclips.net/video/UU7VJvYgczs/видео.html) but we wanted to plane at least one side so we could 1.) get every board the same thickness and get a really precise fit to the side of the barn and 2.) a more modern look. Sander is obsessed with precision. The wood mizer looks awesome; thanks for that tip. A new one looks like 7x the cost of a planer if we were to invest in that new. I think that would have been probably a weighing the plusses and minuses of investing in that ourselves. But I'm sure we could have possibly found a friend in these parts that maybe could have lent us one. If we ever take on another big project like this, I think it could be well worth the investment, though next time, I'm hoping we'll be more decisive on whether we want it planed or not and just asked the miller to do that! Hope you are doing well and enjoying the winter!
@@FlockFingerLakes all good
AND your labor DIY saved more than the $$$ you would have had to pay out.
To pay out $ 37,000:00 you would have had to earn over $ 50,000:00 before income taxes.
Nice work and nice detail !
Yeah that’s a really good point. You definitely would have to make more to cover both taxes and paying out contractors.
I personally don’t like LED lighting, and I’m an electrician. LED’s are constantly cycling on/off faster than your eye can see. This on off cycle actually puts out frequencies (sometimes audible). I’m not sure if these frequencies are good for us tbh.
Yeah we've seen some data on that, mainly in using LEDs for headlights and red light therapy, for instance. I think you would need to find LEDs with a constant current vs those that rely on pulse-width modulating circuitry. The other issue with say incandescent vs LEDs is that the filament in the incandescent naturally produces both visible light and near infrared light, whereas the LED has to be designed and programmed to do as such. This can potentially affect the production of certain enzymes/hormones. One may want to weigh the plusses and minuses of that if you're 1.) going to be living/working a lot in the facility, specifically at night, and 2.) the other alternatives on the market for switching out bulbs, cost, etc. If you have any literature on human effects in buildings, that would be very interesting if you care to share. Happy to review and look into that, as it would have cross-over into plant grow light categories too. I can't imagine we'll be using the lights that often in the barn, as Sander doesn't typically work at night, and luckily we put in quite a bit of windows during the day time to get that beautiful natural sunlight, which the barn didn't have before. Thanks for bringing this up. It's fascinating and nascent as far as the research goes!
When we built our garage about 12 years ago we opted for full length (pricey) cedar boards, and it looked beautiful! Unfortunately woodpeckers like it and they’ve been busy pecking away. We’ve had to patch it up and right now we have Mylar strips hanging from parts of it. I wanted to use wood because our home is cedar sided but to be honest if I had to do it over again I’d side it with something that doesn’t need to be stained or painted. We have tons of birds and we love them but they can do damage to wood along with the bees.
That's interesting. The main house here is cedar-sided (almost 40 years old now) and it will occasionally have a woodpecker knocking on it but it's a rare occasion. I think there are more interesting insects in the actual trees. Are you in an area where there are a lot of mature trees?
Yes we live in S Ct in a heavily wooded area….we have so many birds here it’s wonderful!!! We have owls, hawks and huge pileated woodpeckers but they seem to like old tree stumps the best and that’s fine with me. My husband says it’s the hairy woodpeckers that chew up our garage. I wonder if they are looking for bugs, or if it’s some sort of bird love language. I do prefer the new look of your barn, you’ve done an amazing job on the property and buildings.
I don't mind looking shallow, but my first reaction was "What great tans you guys have! You both look great". Now to the substance of the video ...
We had a little help from the setting sun-casts a nice warm glow over everything (and everyone). Guess that's why they call it golden hour!
@@FlockFingerLakes It really works well on you both
35 years ago in the wooded hills of Westchester County, New York we had some very strong tornadoes that caused a lot damage to the houses, electrical posts, barns and trees. Have you given any thoughts regarding that?
People with alot of money can do that but most people in the real world would never change the metal on the exterior.
Yes, for people who cannot or don''t want to change the siding of an exterior building would likely not find this video helpful and maybe would find something else to watch that is helpful for them. However, anyone who is considering it; or folks who have to side a building and are weighing the costs of doing it in either wood or metal, for instance; or folks who are considering doing it themselves vs. hiring a contractor; of folks just looking for design tips or inspiration-like colors, patterns, or software to visualize in-may find a video like this helpful.
👨🏼🍳 weird soup. 👩🏻🍳 :)
4:08 I bet you weed free for a year😊
Probably! Ha!